Teacher+Planning

Audio From First Planning Meeting

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Jeff Whipple 16/02/08 10:08 PM can you hist call...clay is cburell Derrall Garrison 16/02/08 10:08 PM do you want me to try and host the skype call? 16/02/08 10:08 PM

i have him as a contact already Derrall Garrison added anne.mirtschin, Clay Burell, Kimberly Brown, Ann Oro to this chat 16/02/08 10:14 PM Derrall Garrison 16/02/08 10:14 PM hi Jeff Whipple 16/02/08 10:14 PM hey anne.mirtschin 16/02/08 10:14 PM hi derral Kimberly Brown 16/02/08 10:14 PM hi Derrall Garrison 16/02/08 10:14 PM hi anne anne.mirtschin 16/02/08 10:14 PM oops derrall Kimberly Brown 16/02/08 10:15 PM this is so fun Ann Oro 16/02/08 10:15 PM hi Derrall Garrison 16/02/08 10:15 PM hi Jeff Whipple 16/02/08 10:15 PM voice lost anne.mirtschin 16/02/08 10:15 PM and hi everyone else from a 33deg temp (celsius in Aus) Clay Burell 16/02/08 10:15 PM http://beyond-school.org/2008/02/03/questioning-flat-classroom-projects-as-we-gear-up-for-the-2d-1001-flat-world-tales/ 16/02/08 10:15 PM


 * Pitfall: Quality of writing prompt: The “Alien King” frame story modeled after the Arabian Nights was a fun idea, and some sort of frame story, either the same or a new one makes no difference to me, seems desirable for giving the message that a storyteller has to tell a good story to “survive” and be published. But last year’s prompt - “Write a story that shows a critical insight about your specific culture” - seems in need of a very creative and more-inspired overhaul.
 * Solution?: Decentralize it. Let each classroom determine its own prompt? Or keep it uniform, but give it more cutting teeth? (I fantasize about stories that show some critical insight about what it means to be a student in today’s educational system, and what it means to be “smart” and “educated,” from the students’ p.o.v. Call it “Students 2.0, the Fiction Version.” Tasty satire could come of that, and much catharsis from the students who finally are invited to express their views on schooliness. But that’s just me. I’m no dictator.)

Jeff Whipple 16/02/08 10:15 PM did you guys lose voice skype connect? anne.mirtschin 16/02/08 10:16 PM no I did not lose voice contact Jeff Jeff Whipple 16/02/08 10:16 PM ok...back Kimberly Brown 16/02/08 10:16 PM today was nice in Saskatchewan -2 degrees celcius was -42 last week anne.mirtschin 16/02/08 10:16 PM Is anyone recording this conversation. I dont have powergrammo on this desktop 16/02/08 10:16 PM
 * Pitfall: Text-only bias

@kimberly whoaa!! that is cold 16/02/08 10:17 PM

Okay so we make up our own prompt Derrall Garrison 16/02/08 10:17 PM i can Jeff Whipple 16/02/08 10:17 PM interesting idea 16/02/08 10:18 PM

students 2010 that is anne.mirtschin 16/02/08 10:18 PM so what software do you use to record? Clay Burell 16/02/08 10:18 PM Derrall Garrison 16/02/08 10:18 PM nicecast Jeff Whipple 16/02/08 10:19 PM i am quitting the brigit screen share anne.mirtschin 16/02/08 10:19 PM uh oh I have a problem error on bridgit client Derrall Garrison 16/02/08 10:19 PM ok Jeff Whipple 16/02/08 10:20 PM it was too slow anyway.... 16/02/08 10:20 PM
 * Pitfall: Prose fiction/creative writing bias. We prescribed that last year.
 * Solution?: Invite non-fiction as an option. (But this would make teaching the unit messier. As would, it occurs to me, allowing mutlimedia. Which isn’t necessarily insurmountable. We could invite adults with an interest in the different media to guest-mentor from the edublogosphere or other real-world communities, for example.)

5 min lag anne.mirtschin 16/02/08 10:21 PM How will we choose which school to work with? Ann Oro 16/02/08 10:21 PM That's my next question, Anne. Jeff Whipple 16/02/08 10:22 PM not sure...there will be many classes...probably have to look at matcing gardes as much as possible 16/02/08 10:22 PM

one of us may have to tak charge of the matching...probably no more than three classes together 16/02/08 10:22 PM

tht may mean several groups anne.mirtschin 16/02/08 10:23 PM where is clay's blog url? Jeff Whipple 16/02/08 10:23 PM http://beyond-school.org anne.mirtschin 16/02/08 10:23 PM thanks @jeff Kimberly Brown 16/02/08 10:23 PM we use First Steps writing program in Saskatchewan anne.mirtschin 16/02/08 10:23 PM I have not I teach IT and am working with English teacher like Anne Jeff Whipple 16/02/08 10:23 PM i am lost again. 16/02/08 10:24 PM

no voice contact Derrall Garrison 16/02/08 10:24 PM hold on Jeff Whipple 16/02/08 10:24 PM thanks 16/02/08 10:24 PM

thanks Derrall Garrison 16/02/08 10:24 PM no problem anne.mirtschin 16/02/08 10:25 PM thanks Ann My next question 16/02/08 10:29 PM

well that might be difficult for me and Jo Mcleay but I am sure we can work around it. Jeff Whipple 16/02/08 10:30 PM yes...I am sure we can work that out Kimberly Brown 16/02/08 10:31 PM I think we want to make the connections anne.mirtschin 16/02/08 10:31 PM Yes, cos our kids in Aussie want to work with US kids Makes it more interesting. Ann Oro 16/02/08 10:31 PM Our students also want to work with those in Australia and Canada Jeff Whipple 16/02/08 10:31 PM and I think us in canada want to ork with the downunder cats too... anne.mirtschin 16/02/08 10:31 PM oops!!! Sorry meant to include Canada as well Derrall Garrison 16/02/08 10:31 PM yes my students want to work with students the furthest away anne.mirtschin 16/02/08 10:32 PM So I am sure if we know the constraints we can work with or around them 16/02/08 10:32 PM

no I have not seen finished products Clay Burell 16/02/08 10:32 PM http://1001flatworldtales.edublogs.org 16/02/08 10:33 PM

http://burell9english.wikispaces.com Jeff Whipple 16/02/08 10:37 PM I work only with middle level Derrall Garrison 16/02/08 10:38 PM me too anne.mirtschin 16/02/08 10:42 PM hello derrall thanks Derrall Garrison 16/02/08 10:42 PM you're welcome anne.mirtschin 16/02/08 10:42 PM what was the url for the archive Jeff Whipple 16/02/08 10:42 PM archine.org 16/02/08 10:43 PM

archive.org Derrall Garrison 16/02/08 10:43 PM archive.org Jeff Whipple 16/02/08 10:43 PM kind of fun Clay Burell 16/02/08 10:44 PM http://1001teachers.blogspot.com/ anne.mirtschin 16/02/08 10:45 PM I am murcha on twitter 16/02/08 10:46 PM

my audio is starting to cut in and out. So could you please type where the zipped folder is going please. 16/02/08 10:47 PM

Can we also get where the recorded conversation is going to be shared (of this skype conversation 16/02/08 10:47 PM

thanks Derrall Kimberly Brown 16/02/08 10:48 PM @anne What grade(s) do you teach/ anne.mirtschin 16/02/08 10:48 PM duoh!!! My connection has dropped again Derrall Garrison 16/02/08 10:48 PM your computer is resisting Kimberly Brown 16/02/08 10:49 PM oh, oh Have we lost everyone? Ann Oro 16/02/08 10:49 PM Are we all lost? Jeff Whipple 16/02/08 10:49 PM yup... Kimberly Brown 16/02/08 10:49 PM we're lost Clay Burell 16/02/08 10:49 PM i'm always lost Jeff Whipple 16/02/08 10:49 PM LOL Kimberly Brown 16/02/08 10:49 PM at least we still have the chat Jeff Whipple 16/02/08 10:50 PM I am sure derrall can rescue us...LOL Ann Oro 16/02/08 10:50 PM I'm back Kimberly Brown 16/02/08 10:50 PM me too Jeff Whipple 16/02/08 10:50 PM bad skype tonite.... 16/02/08 10:50 PM

gone again anne.mirtschin 16/02/08 10:48 PM Kimberley I teach IT to grades 4 through to year 12. But I only have them 2 lessons a week in the younger levels 16/02/08 10:49 PM

The ones who are going to be involved are grade 6 and 7, Kimberley 16/02/08 10:49 PM

Are you getting these messages even though my audio has gone Jeff Whipple 16/02/08 10:50 PM yup Kimberly Brown 16/02/08 10:51 PM a fibre optics cable was burned in a fire across the street Thursday night. Fortunately not my internet or phone supplier Jeff Whipple 16/02/08 10:51 PM ok...thanks clay Kimberly Brown 16/02/08 10:51 PM @Anne Yes we're getting your messages anne.mirtschin 16/02/08 10:51 PM Am I back Derrall Garrison 16/02/08 10:51 PM yep hold on anne.mirtschin 16/02/08 10:52 PM Oh but Kimberly did you see that I teach 4-10 but grades 6 and 7 are doing the ms flat tales Kimberly Brown 16/02/08 10:52 PM I'm debating between my grade 6 & 7 class or the grade 7 & 8 class I work with for language arts. My 6 & 7 have a collaborative project on the go right now 16/02/08 10:52 PM

@ Anne yes I did anne.mirtschin 16/02/08 10:53 PM that is a good idea about the reflections 16/02/08 10:53 PM

I am mirtschin@gmail.com or www.murcha.wordpress.com Clay Burell 16/02/08 10:53 PM http://1001teachers.blogspot.com Kimberly Brown 16/02/08 10:54 PM My 7 &8s would be more work but it would be a great experience for them. Derrall Garrison 16/02/08 10:54 PM derrallg@gmail.com Jeff Whipple 16/02/08 10:54 PM jeff.whipple@nbed.nb.ca Kimberly Brown 16/02/08 10:54 PM kimberlybrown5@gmail.com anne.mirtschin 16/02/08 10:57 PM we use wordpress 16/02/08 10:58 PM

I want mine to take blogs with them too Kimberly Brown 16/02/08 10:59 PM @Anne do your students each have their own anne.mirtschin 16/02/08 10:59 PM yes, they do each have their own blogs from grade 4-10 16/02/08 10:59 PM

It is experimental though and just starting Clay Burell 16/02/08 11:02 PM http://senduit.com/763a2a anne.mirtschin 16/02/08 11:02 PM I have grade 6 and 7 (i class each) Clay Burell 16/02/08 11:02 PM download the zip file at the address above for the movie 16/02/08 11:03 PM

http://burell9english.wikispaces.com/Student+Page anne.mirtschin 16/02/08 11:04 PM oops my senduit went to screensavers is that right Clay Burell 16/02/08 11:04 PM http://mscofino.edublogs.org/2008/02/03/1001-tales-project-begins-in-bangkok/ 16/02/08 11:04 PM

screensavers? 16/02/08 11:05 PM

Grouping & Coordination

At this point we have determined that we will split the 20 elementary classrooms that are participating into a number of smaller sub groups. First we divided by age level, then by writing style or curricular focus to ensure that the peer editors will be knowledgeable enough to offer constructive advice. We also wanted to keep the groups no larger than 3 schools collaborating together so that it is easier for the students to offer thorough peer reviews.

We have created one page where all of the student stories can be linked and easily accessible. Also on this page, we have all student partners clearly laid out in a table, so that students can quickly find the work of their partners. Regardless of whether the individual student pages are part of the same wiki, or actually hosted on another classroom wiki, they are all clearly linked here. anne.mirtschin 16/02/08 11:05 PM can I save this chat now or do I have to wait until I exit out. Derrall Garrison 16/02/08 11:05 PM it will stay until you leave chat anne.mirtschin 16/02/08 11:06 PM thanks derrall. 16/02/08 11:06 PM

pc here Clay Burell 16/02/08 11:06 PM anne, go to chat > set bookmark anne.mirtschin 16/02/08 11:06 PM okay thanks Jeff Whipple 16/02/08 11:06 PM good anne.mirtschin 16/02/08 11:06 PM so can I get the bookmark back at any time Clay Burell 16/02/08 11:07 PM yep anne.mirtschin 16/02/08 11:07 PM wow that is really good 16/02/08 11:08 PM

Jo has been really quiet lately. I will try and contact her Jeff Whipple 16/02/08 11:08 PM excellent... Clay Burell 16/02/08 11:08 PM http://burell9english.wikispaces.com/ anne.mirtschin 16/02/08 11:08 PM but this time is quite good for me Kimberly Brown 16/02/08 11:09 PM this is good for me too Ann Oro 16/02/08 11:09 PM This time is great here too Jeff Whipple 16/02/08 11:09 PM here as well...a nice way to spend saturday nights...LOL Clay Burell 16/02/08 11:09 PM http://burell9english.wikispaces.com/Student+Page Kimberly Brown 16/02/08 11:09 PM having a glass of wine anne.mirtschin 16/02/08 11:10 PM Bit early in the day for wine for me!! Kimberly Brown 16/02/08 11:10 PM @Anne lol Derrall Garrison 16/02/08 11:11 PM i still have another on skype to my fiance so no wine for me anne.mirtschin 16/02/08 11:12 PM @kimberly Are you classroomqueen on twitter. Could not find you in search Kimberly Brown 16/02/08 11:12 PM @anne yes I am anne.mirtschin 16/02/08 11:12 PM multimedia is a good idea Derrall Garrison 16/02/08 11:12 PM no search doesn't work on twitter had to do google search anne.mirtschin 16/02/08 11:13 PM Wish search worked on twitter It is annoying Derrall Garrison 16/02/08 11:13 PM http://twitter.com/classroomqueen Kimberly Brown 16/02/08 11:13 PM @Derrall thanks Jeff Whipple 16/02/08 11:14 PM sorry guys...but have to head out now 16/02/08 11:14 PM

will wait for your class assignments Derrall Garrison 16/02/08 11:14 PM thanks jeff anne.mirtschin 16/02/08 11:14 PM thanks Jeff Kimberly Brown 16/02/08 11:14 PM @jeff thanks for everything Jeff Whipple 16/02/08 11:14 PM classes/grades/numbers Kimberly Brown 16/02/08 11:14 PM Yes Derrall Garrison 16/02/08 11:14 PM you want it via email? anne.mirtschin 16/02/08 11:14 PM We can use the wiki anyway for ideas etc Jeff Whipple 16/02/08 11:15 PM email is fine... 16/02/08 11:16 PM

gotta see that... anne.mirtschin 16/02/08 11:16 PM can you twitpic that? Derrall Garrison 16/02/08 11:16 PM good idea Jeff Whipple 16/02/08 11:17 PM there ya go.... anne.mirtschin 16/02/08 11:17 PM That would be great!! Ann 16/02/08 11:17 PM

I will have to go in a minute as well Jeff Whipple 16/02/08 11:18 PM sounds good... 16/02/08 11:18 PM

thanks clay Kimberly Brown 16/02/08 11:18 PM @Anne what's your twitter name? Derrall Garrison 16/02/08 11:18 PM thanks clay anne.mirtschin 16/02/08 11:18 PM murcha Jeff Whipple 16/02/08 11:19 PM excellent Kimberly Brown 16/02/08 11:19 PM @Anne take care. Have a great rest of the day Jeff Whipple 16/02/08 11:19 PM

anne.mirtschin 16/02/08 11:19 PM I am cutting out. Jeff Whipple 16/02/08 11:19 PM nite all...or morning/afternoon...LOL anne.mirtschin 16/02/08 11:19 PM See you all Derrall Garrison 16/02/08 11:19 PM bye anne anne.mirtschin 16/02/08 11:20 PM bye Kimberly Brown 16/02/08 11:20 PM bye Ann Oro 16/02/08 11:20 PM Good day, Ann Jeff Whipple 16/02/08 11:20 PM bye Derrall Garrison 16/02/08 11:21 PM bye Ann Oro 16/02/08 11:21 PM Bye Jeff Clay Burell 16/02/08 11:32 PM i fixed the blog back to its original form: http://1001flatworldtales.edublogs.org Derrall Garrison added Jo McLeay to this chat