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Jeff Whipple
16/02/08 10:08 PM
can you hist call...clay is cburell
Derrall Garrison
16/02/08 10:08 PM
do you want me to try and host the skype call?
16/02/08 10:08 PM

i have him as a contact already
Derrall Garrison added anne.mirtschin, Clay Burell, Kimberly Brown, Ann Oro to this chat
16/02/08 10:14 PM
Derrall Garrison
16/02/08 10:14 PM
hi
Jeff Whipple
16/02/08 10:14 PM
hey
anne.mirtschin
16/02/08 10:14 PM
hi derral
Kimberly Brown
16/02/08 10:14 PM
hi
Derrall Garrison
16/02/08 10:14 PM
hi anne
anne.mirtschin
16/02/08 10:14 PM
oops derrall
Kimberly Brown
16/02/08 10:15 PM
this is so fun
Ann Oro
16/02/08 10:15 PM
hi
Derrall Garrison
16/02/08 10:15 PM
hi
Jeff Whipple
16/02/08 10:15 PM
voice lost
anne.mirtschin
16/02/08 10:15 PM
and hi everyone else from a 33deg temp (celsius in Aus)
Clay Burell
16/02/08 10:15 PM
http://beyond-school.org/2008/02/03/questioning-flat-classroom-projects-as-we-gear-up-for-the-2d-1001-flat-world-tales/
16/02/08 10:15 PM

  • Pitfall: Quality of writing prompt: The “Alien King” frame story modeled after the Arabian Nights was a fun idea, and some sort of frame story, either the same or a new one makes no difference to me, seems desirable for giving the message that a storyteller has to tell a good story to “survive” and be published. But last year’s prompt - “Write a story that shows a critical insight about your specific culture” - seems in need of a very creative and more-inspired overhaul.
  • Solution?: Decentralize it. Let each classroom determine its own prompt? Or keep it uniform, but give it more cutting teeth? (I fantasize about stories that show some critical insight about what it means to be a student in today’s educational system, and what it means to be “smart” and “educated,” from the students’ p.o.v. Call it “Students 2.0, the Fiction Version.” Tasty satire could come of that, and much catharsis from the students who finally are invited to express their views on schooliness. But that’s just me. I’m no dictator.)

  • Pitfall: Text-only bias
Jeff Whipple
16/02/08 10:15 PM
did you guys lose voice skype connect?
anne.mirtschin
16/02/08 10:16 PM
no I did not lose voice contact Jeff
Jeff Whipple
16/02/08 10:16 PM
ok...back
Kimberly Brown
16/02/08 10:16 PM
today was nice in Saskatchewan -2 degrees celcius was -42 last week
anne.mirtschin
16/02/08 10:16 PM
Is anyone recording this conversation. I dont have powergrammo on this desktop
16/02/08 10:16 PM

@kimberly whoaa!! that is cold
16/02/08 10:17 PM

Okay so we make up our own prompt
Derrall Garrison
16/02/08 10:17 PM
i can
Jeff Whipple
16/02/08 10:17 PM
interesting idea
16/02/08 10:18 PM

students 2010 that is
anne.mirtschin
16/02/08 10:18 PM
so what software do you use to record?
Clay Burell
16/02/08 10:18 PM
  • Pitfall: Prose fiction/creative writing bias. We prescribed that last year.
  • Solution?: Invite non-fiction as an option. (But this would make teaching the unit messier. As would, it occurs to me, allowing mutlimedia. Which isn’t necessarily insurmountable. We could invite adults with an interest in the different media to guest-mentor from the edublogosphere or other real-world communities, for example.)
Derrall Garrison
16/02/08 10:18 PM
nicecast
Jeff Whipple
16/02/08 10:19 PM
i am quitting the brigit screen share
anne.mirtschin
16/02/08 10:19 PM
uh oh I have a problem error on bridgit client
Derrall Garrison
16/02/08 10:19 PM
ok
Jeff Whipple
16/02/08 10:20 PM
it was too slow anyway....
16/02/08 10:20 PM

5 min lag
anne.mirtschin
16/02/08 10:21 PM
How will we choose which school to work with?
Ann Oro
16/02/08 10:21 PM
That's my next question, Anne.
Jeff Whipple
16/02/08 10:22 PM
not sure...there will be many classes...probably have to look at matcing gardes as much as possible
16/02/08 10:22 PM

one of us may have to tak charge of the matching...probably no more than three classes together
16/02/08 10:22 PM

tht may mean several groups
anne.mirtschin
16/02/08 10:23 PM
where is clay's blog url?
Jeff Whipple
16/02/08 10:23 PM
http://beyond-school.org
anne.mirtschin
16/02/08 10:23 PM
thanks @jeff
Kimberly Brown
16/02/08 10:23 PM
we use First Steps writing program in Saskatchewan
anne.mirtschin
16/02/08 10:23 PM
I have not I teach IT and am working with English teacher like Anne
Jeff Whipple
16/02/08 10:23 PM
i am lost again.
16/02/08 10:24 PM

no voice contact
Derrall Garrison
16/02/08 10:24 PM
hold on
Jeff Whipple
16/02/08 10:24 PM
thanks
16/02/08 10:24 PM

thanks
Derrall Garrison
16/02/08 10:24 PM
no problem
anne.mirtschin
16/02/08 10:25 PM
thanks Ann My next question
16/02/08 10:29 PM

well that might be difficult for me and Jo Mcleay but I am sure we can work around it.
Jeff Whipple
16/02/08 10:30 PM
yes...I am sure we can work that out
Kimberly Brown
16/02/08 10:31 PM
I think we want to make the connections
anne.mirtschin
16/02/08 10:31 PM
Yes, cos our kids in Aussie want to work with US kids Makes it more interesting.
Ann Oro
16/02/08 10:31 PM
Our students also want to work with those in Australia and Canada
Jeff Whipple
16/02/08 10:31 PM
and I think us in canada want to ork with the downunder cats too...
anne.mirtschin
16/02/08 10:31 PM
oops!!! Sorry meant to include Canada as well
Derrall Garrison
16/02/08 10:31 PM
yes my students want to work with students the furthest away
anne.mirtschin
16/02/08 10:32 PM
So I am sure if we know the constraints we can work with or around them
16/02/08 10:32 PM

no I have not seen finished products
Clay Burell
16/02/08 10:32 PM
http://1001flatworldtales.edublogs.org
16/02/08 10:33 PM

http://burell9english.wikispaces.com
Jeff Whipple
16/02/08 10:37 PM
I work only with middle level
Derrall Garrison
16/02/08 10:38 PM
me too
anne.mirtschin
16/02/08 10:42 PM
hello derrall thanks
Derrall Garrison
16/02/08 10:42 PM
you're welcome
anne.mirtschin
16/02/08 10:42 PM
what was the url for the archive
Jeff Whipple
16/02/08 10:42 PM
archine.org
16/02/08 10:43 PM

archive.org
Derrall Garrison
16/02/08 10:43 PM
archive.org
Jeff Whipple
16/02/08 10:43 PM
kind of fun
Clay Burell
16/02/08 10:44 PM
http://1001teachers.blogspot.com/
anne.mirtschin
16/02/08 10:45 PM
I am murcha on twitter
16/02/08 10:46 PM

my audio is starting to cut in and out. So could you please type where the zipped folder is going please.
16/02/08 10:47 PM

Can we also get where the recorded conversation is going to be shared (of this skype conversation
16/02/08 10:47 PM

thanks Derrall
Kimberly Brown
16/02/08 10:48 PM
@anne What grade(s) do you teach/
anne.mirtschin
16/02/08 10:48 PM
duoh!!! My connection has dropped again
Derrall Garrison
16/02/08 10:48 PM
your computer is resisting
Kimberly Brown
16/02/08 10:49 PM
oh, oh Have we lost everyone?
Ann Oro
16/02/08 10:49 PM
Are we all lost?
Jeff Whipple
16/02/08 10:49 PM
yup...
Kimberly Brown
16/02/08 10:49 PM
we're lost
Clay Burell
16/02/08 10:49 PM
i'm always lost
Jeff Whipple
16/02/08 10:49 PM
LOL
Kimberly Brown
16/02/08 10:49 PM
at least we still have the chat
Jeff Whipple
16/02/08 10:50 PM
I am sure derrall can rescue us...LOL
Ann Oro
16/02/08 10:50 PM
I'm back
Kimberly Brown
16/02/08 10:50 PM
me too
Jeff Whipple
16/02/08 10:50 PM
bad skype tonite....
16/02/08 10:50 PM

gone again
anne.mirtschin
16/02/08 10:48 PM
Kimberley I teach IT to grades 4 through to year 12. But I only have them 2 lessons a week in the younger levels
16/02/08 10:49 PM

The ones who are going to be involved are grade 6 and 7, Kimberley
16/02/08 10:49 PM

Are you getting these messages even though my audio has gone
Jeff Whipple
16/02/08 10:50 PM
yup
Kimberly Brown
16/02/08 10:51 PM
a fibre optics cable was burned in a fire across the street Thursday night. Fortunately not my internet or phone supplier
Jeff Whipple
16/02/08 10:51 PM
ok...thanks clay
Kimberly Brown
16/02/08 10:51 PM
@Anne Yes we're getting your messages
anne.mirtschin
16/02/08 10:51 PM
Am I back
Derrall Garrison
16/02/08 10:51 PM
yep hold on
anne.mirtschin
16/02/08 10:52 PM
Oh but Kimberly did you see that I teach 4-10 but grades 6 and 7 are doing the ms flat tales
Kimberly Brown
16/02/08 10:52 PM
I'm debating between my grade 6 & 7 class or the grade 7 & 8 class I work with for language arts. My 6 & 7 have a collaborative project on the go right now
16/02/08 10:52 PM

@ Anne yes I did
anne.mirtschin
16/02/08 10:53 PM
that is a good idea about the reflections
16/02/08 10:53 PM

I am mirtschin@gmail.com or www.murcha.wordpress.com
Clay Burell
16/02/08 10:53 PM
http://1001teachers.blogspot.com
Kimberly Brown
16/02/08 10:54 PM
My 7 &8s would be more work but it would be a great experience for them.
Derrall Garrison
16/02/08 10:54 PM
derrallg@gmail.com
Jeff Whipple
16/02/08 10:54 PM
jeff.whipple@nbed.nb.ca
Kimberly Brown
16/02/08 10:54 PM
kimberlybrown5@gmail.com
anne.mirtschin
16/02/08 10:57 PM
we use wordpress
16/02/08 10:58 PM

I want mine to take blogs with them too
Kimberly Brown
16/02/08 10:59 PM
@Anne do your students each have their own
anne.mirtschin
16/02/08 10:59 PM
yes, they do each have their own blogs from grade 4-10
16/02/08 10:59 PM

It is experimental though and just starting
Clay Burell
16/02/08 11:02 PM
http://senduit.com/763a2a
anne.mirtschin
16/02/08 11:02 PM
I have grade 6 and 7 (i class each)
Clay Burell
16/02/08 11:02 PM
download the zip file at the address above for the movie
16/02/08 11:03 PM

http://burell9english.wikispaces.com/Student+Page
anne.mirtschin
16/02/08 11:04 PM
oops my senduit went to screensavers is that right
Clay Burell
16/02/08 11:04 PM
http://mscofino.edublogs.org/2008/02/03/1001-tales-project-begins-in-bangkok/
16/02/08 11:04 PM

screensavers?
16/02/08 11:05 PM

Grouping & Coordination

At this point we have determined that we will split the 20 elementary classrooms that are participating into a number of smaller sub groups. First we divided by age level, then by writing style or curricular focus to ensure that the peer editors will be knowledgeable enough to offer constructive advice. We also wanted to keep the groups no larger than 3 schools collaborating together so that it is easier for the students to offer thorough peer reviews.

We have created one page where all of the student stories can be linked and easily accessible. Also on this page, we have all student partners clearly laid out in a table, so that students can quickly find the work of their partners. Regardless of whether the individual student pages are part of the same wiki, or actually hosted on another classroom wiki, they are all clearly linked here.
anne.mirtschin
16/02/08 11:05 PM
can I save this chat now or do I have to wait until I exit out.
Derrall Garrison
16/02/08 11:05 PM
it will stay until you leave chat
anne.mirtschin
16/02/08 11:06 PM
thanks derrall.
16/02/08 11:06 PM

pc here
Clay Burell
16/02/08 11:06 PM
anne, go to chat > set bookmark
anne.mirtschin
16/02/08 11:06 PM
okay thanks
Jeff Whipple
16/02/08 11:06 PM
good
anne.mirtschin
16/02/08 11:06 PM
so can I get the bookmark back at any time
Clay Burell
16/02/08 11:07 PM
yep
anne.mirtschin
16/02/08 11:07 PM
wow that is really good
16/02/08 11:08 PM

Jo has been really quiet lately. I will try and contact her
Jeff Whipple
16/02/08 11:08 PM
excellent...
Clay Burell
16/02/08 11:08 PM
http://burell9english.wikispaces.com/
anne.mirtschin
16/02/08 11:08 PM
but this time is quite good for me
Kimberly Brown
16/02/08 11:09 PM
this is good for me too
Ann Oro
16/02/08 11:09 PM
This time is great here too
Jeff Whipple
16/02/08 11:09 PM
here as well...a nice way to spend saturday nights...LOL
Clay Burell
16/02/08 11:09 PM
http://burell9english.wikispaces.com/Student+Page
Kimberly Brown
16/02/08 11:09 PM
having a glass of wine
anne.mirtschin
16/02/08 11:10 PM
Bit early in the day for wine for me!!
Kimberly Brown
16/02/08 11:10 PM
@Anne lol
Derrall Garrison
16/02/08 11:11 PM
i still have another on skype to my fiance so no wine for me
anne.mirtschin
16/02/08 11:12 PM
@kimberly Are you classroomqueen on twitter. Could not find you in search
Kimberly Brown
16/02/08 11:12 PM
@anne yes I am
anne.mirtschin
16/02/08 11:12 PM
multimedia is a good idea
Derrall Garrison
16/02/08 11:12 PM
no search doesn't work on twitter had to do google search
anne.mirtschin
16/02/08 11:13 PM
Wish search worked on twitter It is annoying
Derrall Garrison
16/02/08 11:13 PM
http://twitter.com/classroomqueen
Kimberly Brown
16/02/08 11:13 PM
@Derrall thanks
Jeff Whipple
16/02/08 11:14 PM
sorry guys...but have to head out now
16/02/08 11:14 PM

will wait for your class assignments
Derrall Garrison
16/02/08 11:14 PM
thanks jeff
anne.mirtschin
16/02/08 11:14 PM
thanks Jeff
Kimberly Brown
16/02/08 11:14 PM
@jeff thanks for everything
Jeff Whipple
16/02/08 11:14 PM
classes/grades/numbers
Kimberly Brown
16/02/08 11:14 PM
Yes
Derrall Garrison
16/02/08 11:14 PM
you want it via email?
anne.mirtschin
16/02/08 11:14 PM
We can use the wiki anyway for ideas etc
Jeff Whipple
16/02/08 11:15 PM
email is fine...
16/02/08 11:16 PM

gotta see that...
anne.mirtschin
16/02/08 11:16 PM
can you twitpic that?
Derrall Garrison
16/02/08 11:16 PM
good idea
Jeff Whipple
16/02/08 11:17 PM
there ya go....
anne.mirtschin
16/02/08 11:17 PM
That would be great!! Ann
16/02/08 11:17 PM

I will have to go in a minute as well
Jeff Whipple
16/02/08 11:18 PM
sounds good...
16/02/08 11:18 PM

thanks clay
Kimberly Brown
16/02/08 11:18 PM
@Anne what's your twitter name?
Derrall Garrison
16/02/08 11:18 PM
thanks clay
anne.mirtschin
16/02/08 11:18 PM
murcha
Jeff Whipple
16/02/08 11:19 PM
excellent
Kimberly Brown
16/02/08 11:19 PM
@Anne take care. Have a great rest of the day
Jeff Whipple
16/02/08 11:19 PM

anne.mirtschin
16/02/08 11:19 PM
I am cutting out.
Jeff Whipple
16/02/08 11:19 PM
nite all...or morning/afternoon...LOL
anne.mirtschin
16/02/08 11:19 PM
See you all
Derrall Garrison
16/02/08 11:19 PM
bye anne
anne.mirtschin
16/02/08 11:20 PM
bye
Kimberly Brown
16/02/08 11:20 PM
bye
Ann Oro
16/02/08 11:20 PM
Good day, Ann
Jeff Whipple
16/02/08 11:20 PM
bye
Derrall Garrison
16/02/08 11:21 PM
bye
Ann Oro
16/02/08 11:21 PM
Bye Jeff
Clay Burell
16/02/08 11:32 PM
i fixed the blog back to its original form: http://1001flatworldtales.edublogs.org
Derrall Garrison added Jo McLeay to this chat